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| Harm |
Posted - 03/03/2016 : 07:13:58
Is it just my feeling or is the current wave of Model Factory Hiro kits slowly killing off the smaller scale? Lots of things going on in the field of 1/12, look at the Miniwerks project forum. Builders/ finishers who used to be active in 1/43rd seems to be concentrating on 1/12, not surprisingly perhaps because of this wave of interesting subjects. I also notice that MFH is not bringing out 1/43rd kits anymore, although this might be temporary. Tameo has slowed down a bit its seems.
What do you people think? |
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| PeterW |
Posted - 03/20/2016 : 10:29:26
Two different markets...one has no affect on the other. |
| SAMLAMBO |
Posted - 03/19/2016 : 08:48:06
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Originally posted by swbobsessed
I think the younger collector is going to have less room though and of the high end stuff I think 1/18 is just as expensive. For me it's this amazing detailed work so small that Interests me, 1/18 just doesn't provide that for me the same and I personally would not have enough room. I I think Moriaan is probably right that it comes down to cost and time to produce. For me it will always be 1/43, they are the best!
Totally agree with what you have to say, especially with 1/43 being the best |
| swbobsessed |
Posted - 03/15/2016 : 11:38:40
I think the younger collector is going to have less room though and of the high end stuff I think 1/18 is just as expensive. For me it's this amazing detailed work so small that Interests me, 1/18 just doesn't provide that for me the same and I personally would not have enough room. I I think Moriaan is probably right that it comes down to cost and time to produce. For me it will always be 1/43, they are the best! |
| SAMLAMBO |
Posted - 03/13/2016 : 08:14:27
I guess nowadays there are many more younger collectors that can't afford to pay so much either and they want more for less money. Also the bigger models look more impressive to them, not to me. Hence the shift from 1/43 to bigger scales. So will these new breed of collectors eventually learn to appreciate 1/43 scales? I hope so. |
| daniel |
Posted - 03/07/2016 : 03:54:19
I think it's not killing 1/43. The hype about 1/12 is there at the moment that is true but if you look closely it's only MFH bringing out 1/12...ok Profil 24 has one available also. I'm active in another modeling forums and it's clear to see people go crazy on 1/12...why ? maybe the size or the fact that there weren't any 1/12 kits available in the past. OK MG Models and others had some but they were really bad compared to MFH. And as long as people go crazy about 1/12 MFH will produce them and make a lot of money. Development of 1/12 and smaller models are nearly the same but they sell for around 3 times more and whitemetal and resin is not that expensive.
Another thing that is important to mention. MFH is not allowed to make any Ferrari subjects in 1/20 24 so it is abvious they had to concentrate on other things.
About the available handbuilds I also think 1/12 are way easier to make money. I personally build mainly superdetailed models in all scales so far (I will not show a link to my models since I don't know if I'm allowed to. I will only post a link if Mike says it's OK).
I must say making a superdetailed kit in 1/12 is by far the easiest and most of the detail parts are easily available...OK painting and polishing takes more in 1/12 ;-)
I think as a modelbuilder the times are amazing at the moment with so many amazing kits available. And that is not bad for the collector either... |
| Dave G |
Posted - 03/05/2016 : 07:17:40
I am looking for a decent Looksmart 288 Evolution for quite a while now, with no luck unfortunately... Funnily enough Looksmart plans to build a 1/18 version. This does not change my plan, I still want the 1/43 version. I think leading is what your collection is about. |
| Carlo |
Posted - 03/05/2016 : 00:07:58
I don’t think that 1:12 are killing smaller scales. The improved technologies, specially coming from Japan, continue to bring great 1:12 models on the market and it makes sense that the well-known builders are very excited to propose these models to collectors. That doesn’t mean that the 1:43 scale is dead. In my opinion a scale cannot kill another one. Each scale has unconditional enthusiasts.
E.g. in the last years, we noticed a huge growth of 1:18 models. This didn’t influence me. Opting for a scale depends on the theme and the emotion you get with your collection. Imagine the time and the space you will need to gather all produced Ferrari cars in 1:12 or 1:18 at home. I collect mostly 1:43 models but nothing prevented me to buy in the past any 1:12/1:14 as “side dishes” because this scale is simply impressive. I never thought to replace my 1:43 with 1:12 or 1:18 models.
Wishing a long life to all scales!
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| christian |
Posted - 03/04/2016 : 13:58:03
I have opened a new thread
http://www.miniwerks.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2133
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| moriaan |
Posted - 03/04/2016 : 08:47:15
bigger is not allways better.
Its a different kind of model and requires different skills for a builder. I can build a reasonable 1:12, but in 1:43 I simply suck!
to small, to tiny and fiddly for my hands and talent.
There are collectors and there are people that buy a few "big" ones as showpieces, most homes are not suited for a large number of big models. different approach and different way of collecting.
BBR and other companies making series in 1:43 are struggling, thats why they turn to 1:18. The topbuilders will allways have work.
The "artisans" make art, and like painters, the good ones will allways be appreciated, a showcase with 100 bbr's is never as good as a case with a few top pieces.
Its not dying its changing. Longtime collectors will eventually collect art, and man I love my artpieces! |
| Stas |
Posted - 03/04/2016 : 04:21:40
Unfortunately a lot of people prefer to think bigger = better. And big models also look impressive on the shelf and on digital photos. So it's no surprise that its popularity is growing among collectors.
I am miniaturist by nature and any model bigger than 1/43 just feels too big. The biggest thrill is to look at the beautifully crafted model with "omg it is impossible!" feeling.
1/43 scale may die from the lack of demand and interest from collectors, not because of the marketing strategies of producers. I hope this will not happen for a long long time.
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| rossocorsa |
Posted - 03/04/2016 : 03:08:40
I'm not a collector any more, but as a builder I can say that 1/12 and 1/18 models are very eye catching, and as a kits also, do not forget that most of this kits will never be built, most of them are collected as kits. Some of them never go out of the box.
But only the collector can decide, there are so many old and new kits available to build, and today we can start with a regular kit and made a very high end model, in any scale. If 1/43 is going to die or not, only collectors can decide.
Ricardo |
| dark star |
Posted - 03/04/2016 : 01:21:29
Luckily, I have still many,many old kits in 1/43 scale to build.
I bought my first models when I was 11 years old in 1959, and they were a wonderful (for me at least ...) Norev made of plastic, in 1/43 scale, of course.
I don't know what is the market policy from the manufacturers that survive today, but they are not going to change my modeller patterns .
I love 1/43 !
jerry |
| 43king |
Posted - 03/03/2016 : 21:57:20
IMO.Mfh targeted retirement people.They have more time and affordable for the kit price.1/12 need less craftmanship and more friendly for their eyes.It was the similar reason why factory go for 1/18(easier to assemble).some builder's 1/43 can kill 1/12 or even Amaglam too. |
| Cloud 9 |
Posted - 03/03/2016 : 17:20:29
1/43 for life....:) |
| swbobsessed |
Posted - 03/03/2016 : 16:02:52
Guys can I ask is BBR still currently producing any vintage 1/43 Ferrari or are their available models pretty much left over? Thanks! |
