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| mito |
Posted - 06/22/2010 : 13:08:14
What is going on at BBR? The most recent models Ferrari 458 Italia and the Alfa giulitta look very basic when it comes to the headlight detail!! from looking at good hi res photos on the net I would compare them to a cheap diecast model. Am I wrong to assume this?
Also again only from hi res photos the overall standard looks no greater than Spark or Hpi models (I have just purchased the Hpi Lancia Stratos prototype and it's up there with the best of them)
I know there is a price difference between the China BBR compared to the Italian BBR but to me I think they have lost there way, great shame.
mito |
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| audifan |
Posted - 06/27/2010 : 03:57:58
This is your photo's image code after I loaded it into my photobucket page.You would copy this into the "reply to topic"
[ IMG]http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq336/d/9d727dbb6a.jpg[/IMG ]
you would then delete the capitol letters IMG from the beginning and end of the line of text and replace them with lower case img .The picture would then appear when you posted the reply.
This is how it works with a photobucket account,I don't know how others work.
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| audifan |
Posted - 06/27/2010 : 03:49:09
This is Mito's photo:
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| mito |
Posted - 06/27/2010 : 02:54:18
Nearly,help anyone!! the link works but how do I get it to show within the forum ie with no link??
mito |
| mito |
Posted - 06/27/2010 : 02:52:12
As I started this thread and mentioned the HPI Lancia stratos, I will try and post pictures[!!http://gallery-plus.co.uk/miniwerks/9d727dbb6a.jpg]
mito |
| ioannis |
Posted - 06/27/2010 : 00:17:42
Fred try a "bread"van too :-)
John |
| Ferrari2006 |
Posted - 06/26/2010 : 22:31:26
On 1. April 2011 will be a Racetruck and a Diorama whit 4 Cars avail..... |
| Ferrari2006 |
Posted - 06/26/2010 : 22:27:16
Hello Friends,
thanks for all the compliments, "The Breadcar" just waiting for me today :-) and i will hope Alonso and Massa will make a good Race.
I see we have to work out new Tyres but we will wait for next year and make some whit Pirelli Logo on it. Yes there are 2 versions avail 1. standard or 2."as BBR Premium-Line" whit Sesameflavore (much better)
There will be no KIT avail, sale only as a Factorybuild Version also NO "Sign" Version avail :-)
He Sale ca. 80 up to 120 from the "Bread-F1-Car" each F1-Sunday its a very smale Backery but some Guys drive oneway 30Km to get it, no joke!
So Guys i have to go to get mine !!!!
Fred
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| the.x.man |
Posted - 06/26/2010 : 14:42:45
That is hilarious, Fred - I love it!
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There is only one substitute for cubic inches... more cubic inches! |
| ferrari4evr1 |
Posted - 06/26/2010 : 05:18:58
Fred, that bread car is perfect!!! Hahahahaha
Is it available in other color variations or limited edition (one flavor only)? ;-)
James |
| LaSource |
Posted - 06/26/2010 : 02:20:47
Fred,
your thread make my day! Excellent!:-)
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| audifan |
Posted - 06/26/2010 : 02:18:00
......and signed by the baker.....
Then they will branch out into kits-a bag of flour,an egg,yeast,and some sesame seeds in a box with a full set of instructions.
then the upgrade kit with better wheels.
Of course the Japanese bakers will do it better,but it will take a long time.......
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| gcs68 |
Posted - 06/26/2010 : 01:38:15
That bread-car is fantastic, made me lough loud, what a great idea Fred.
But wait, next race weekend there will be a special series: the first 30 will be sold with a special paperbag at 10% higher price ;-)
Wolfgang |
| audifan |
Posted - 06/26/2010 : 00:40:11
It was the entry of the Chinese factories as a factor in this business that caused the problems that we are seeing now.
The 3 things that have defined this hobby before this were quality,exclusivity,and,I need to say it,price.
Certain companies became known for the quality of their products,and because they were truly hand-made,fewer were made,and they commanded a higher price.
These factors led to the desire of collectors to try to obtain as many of the models as they could find as something special,not available to everyone that might want one,and only if they could afford it.Once the run was completed,that was the end.
Collectors are still actively searching for some of the older models missing from their shelves,as seen in this forum.
Once the manufacturers realized that the Chinese factory builders were capable of producing(almost)the same end result as their own employees,and at a far lower price,all 3 of the things that made them what they were went out the window in the name of higher profits.
Most collectors will say that the models have possibly lost some of their quality,they are made in such numbers that its not as enjoyable to collect,(the hunt is part of the fun),and as someone has pointed out,the prices have not come down for the collector,as retail prices work out to be nearly the same(factoring in inflation).
I have begun to notice that some items I have seen that are limited to say only 200 pieces are not completely selling out.Many sellers still have them for sale.Even items you would think would be very popular among collectors.
The "Chinese connection"has not benefited the dealer by increasing sales or profits,or the collector,who pays a high "exclusive" price for a mass produced model,only the manufacturer makes out.
These manufacturers have taken their "niche",and brought it almost to the level of a diecast.
The only place I see a benefit brought to us by Chinese production,is in the case of limited edition resin "diecasts" like Spark,and Bizarre,where you can see in many cases,close to,or of the same quality as some of the more lofty brands of the hobby,at a less inflated realistic price.By reflecting the economies of producing these in China,with middle of the road numbers made,usually less than 500 of an particular model,they are sucessful without flooding the market.(I bet you that the final production costs will be very close to the same for both companies models in the end,without adding the gee-whiz of leather bases and higher quality cases,and packaging).
I have seen a number of these Spark,and Bizarre models,who's paint,assembly,and finish could give most of the other companies a run for the money,at less than 1/4 the price.Look at some of the complex paint,and decoration of some of the Spark LeMans 24 models.Most of this is masked,painted and hand decalled,just as a handbuilder would.Yet these models go for the same low price as others in their range,why would a basic street Ferrari with a small amount of photo etch with the same research,same good paint,and same neat assembly handbuilt in the same type of Chinese factory cost 4-6 times as much?
Accuracy is just as easy for the resin diecast company as it is for the big-buck company.Resin casting is not an art form as it was in its beginnings,good paint is good paint,and careful assembly of all the parts,and decals is a basic need for either type of company.
The diecast producer makes no claim for exclusivity,the other type of company built their reputation on it but is now failing in that promise for the sake of greed.
They need to realize where their "bread is buttered",and go back to the roots of their business-making an exclusive limited product of high quality,better and different than the diecast and really deserving of their higher price-its the only way they probably will survive.........
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Ferrari2006: Fred:
That roll is a great product idea!It looks delicious...You can eat it,(no seeds on mine please),but you must eat it before it gets stale,no sitting on the shelf.No saving it,you must buy more.An unlimited series of options to make a custom sandwich. No special packaging,just a paper bag.....;-)
By only making it on certain weekends,it's a limited item!A true collectible!
With food coloring you can make different team cars... |
| Ferrari2006 |
Posted - 06/25/2010 : 23:17:40
Robert,
Mike, maybe this one.....
I talkt to my Bakery if they can make a Custom roll for me, i need it for a present and from this time they make it ONLY on a F1 weekend. And they sale a lot of them...but whitout the BBR Box :-)
Fred
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| Ferrarinut |
Posted - 06/25/2010 : 19:15:13
It is only a matter of time before the need to feed the China factories with high and constant volume backfires on the manufacturers as dealers order lower and lower quantities of each color and/or variation. There will be a period of overlap where dealers think sales will continue as they have, then within months realize they cannot continue to do business the way they used to. As order quantities decrease per color/variation (not overall order volume), the manufacturers will be the ones with dust collecting on stock. Only then will we see a change in their behavior. If they push back on the China factories they will not get the business or the China factories will raise their labor rates which is already happening at a very high rate. I don't think it is long before it makes little economic sense to use China factories. I think we are in a transition period now where manufacturers are feeling the decline in not only unit orders, but overall volume orders from dealers in part due to the economy worldwide as well. I predict big changes in the years ahead, the current business model cannot sustain itself. Manufacturers should enjoy the lofty profits while they can but plan for the future, this won't last much longer. |
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