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arthobald
France
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 Posted - 09/05/2011 : 13:05:02
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Hi guys,
I just uploaded my exclusive report on the Ralph lauren exposition in Paris
Well, maybe not so exclusive but I bet I will propose the highest définition pictures of RL's cars on the internet and that's not so bad. I was lucky enough to be able to take pictures of the whole 17 cars exposed at the Musee des Arts Décoratifs in Paris and it was astounding.
All the pictures in 1600x1066 are here:
http://arthomobiles.fr/Ralphlauren/Ralphlauren.htm
They are like models in real size, as they are absolutly perfect and flawless.... and without any personnality
Cheers
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250GTE
Netherlands
295 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2011 : 13:35:48
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Thank you for sharing your beautiful pictures.
I have never seen the RL-collection myself. I understand he tends to over-restore his cars. But boy, do they look fantastic! |
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arthobald
France
32 Posts |
Posted - 09/05/2011 : 14:06:59
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| Over-restored they are, and beyond that. Idealized versions of themselves and some might say soulless. But impressive nevertheless. The exposition gave me very mixed feelings about that. Fascination and repulsion. |
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Trossi
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Posted - 09/05/2011 : 22:51:17
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Originally posted by arthobald
Over-restored they are, and beyond that. Idealized versions of themselves and some might say soulless. But impressive nevertheless. The exposition gave me very mixed feelings about that. Fascination and repulsion.
I couldnt have said it better. Thats exactly how I feel about Ralphs cars. |
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arthobald
France
32 Posts |
Posted - 09/06/2011 : 06:36:33
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Thank you, I was not sure to make sense in english :)
Yes, they are like miniatures at 1/1 scale. They seem to have been build on the factory blueprint, denying them all their history from their delivery to the exposition, and that's even sadder for competition cars who have known the punishment of the tracks and have nothing left now to prove it. |
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cpete
USA
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Posted - 09/07/2011 : 04:15:23
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Looks like Rosso may have built these
Did you check to see if they had mounting screws underneath, attaching them to the white bases? Haha
Looks like they are just missing the large plate with manufacturer and model.
I must say, still beautiful though. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and they may be soulless, but I'm guessing they are exactly what Ralph wanted.
I think the way in which they are displayed makes them even more 'sterile'.
Even having historic pictures of each car racing would add some level of character.
Again, Thanks for sharing.
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Fred Perez
USA
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Posted - 09/07/2011 : 11:50:05
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I have very nice large size "museum" book that was published showcasing his entire collection when it was displayed in the USA, it is true, the cars look "spotless/pristine" but again he is not the only one doing it to cars with a great racing or historic past...these cars are not restored..since they NEVER had this type of finish/detailing/polishing from the factory when they where originaly produced...these..and other specimens out there..are well over done to the point of been burned!!!!!!!...my very personal opinion of course!!!
A World In Scale! |
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Pluscat
Netherlands
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Posted - 09/07/2011 : 14:17:40
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Hmmm, difficult to say, what I feel about these cars......
Yes, they are overrestored, and a lot about those cars histories is lost. They miss character, personality, and perhaps even soul.
So if these cars aren't living history or historical artifacts, what are they?
That question is not so easy to answer.
If you look take a good look at the pictures you will notice that the cars are so prestine and flawless, that their appearance becomes more abstract. Those cars have almost been reduced to a perfect presentation of automotive shapes and engineering.
There is not a dent, scratch or spec to distract you from the fascinating beauty en functionality of their designs.
In a strange way I like the RL-collection.
The cars are simply presented in an other way than we are used to, and this gives us the opportunity to enjoy the cars in another way than we are used to.
Take advantage of that opportunity my dear friends..... |
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250GTE
Netherlands
295 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2011 : 16:56:02
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| I could imagine the RL-collection appealing more to art lovers than to (race)car lovers. This collection is not about the car and it's specific (racing)history. It is about showcasing their shapes and curves, thus distracting them from their function and giving them a raison d'etre solely based on their form. |
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Trossi
232 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2011 : 00:27:02
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| For me overrestoring is not a matter of interpretation, its about destroying cultural and historic values. |
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moriaan
Netherlands
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Posted - 09/11/2011 : 01:47:45
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Better than new is never good...
originality and patina create character.
I rememeber a photo of several P3/4 bodypanels outside the factory drying in the sun. They just received a coat of red paint, the pavement beneath them also received a red color..
Once a famous restorer asked Jacques Swaters about the original ecurie Francorchamps yellow.. mr. Swaters Laughed, and told the man, "the cheapest".
The collection of Lauren is beautifull, but not as intended..
To many cars get overrestaured, and concoursjudges should judge on originality, the correct sticker or finish should be applied at the time the car was made, and not by someone with ICT skills!
a 100 points concourswinner is NEVER original and thats a terrible shame!
one of my favourite Ferrari's ever is chassis 071S
Used as intended and covered in battle scars!
restoring it would be a serious crime!
http://www.mitorosso.de/index.php?p=strassenundsportwagen/images/index2/166inter/071s/071sf60r2007/071sgallery.htm
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dark star
Spain
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Posted - 09/11/2011 : 15:10:16
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You've explained it perfectly Hans. I totally agree with you.
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