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Radical Racing
USA
16 Posts |
 Posted - 06/02/2010 : 15:29:03
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I am planning to update my Excel spreadsheet list of Ferrari handbuilts which is limited to road cars, styling concepts, stradale versions and one off customs. I collect no actual race versions, other than Le Mans which is kept in a separate spreadsheet. My goal is to have a comprehensive list so I know which cars I still need for my collection that have been modelled previously no matter how rare. I have info on most of the manufacturers but cannot seem to find a comprehensive list of those Ferrari's modelled by MR.
I have the BBR book and All the World's 1/43 Ferraris but need more current information. The MR web site does not seem to be complete. Where can I find a comprehensive list on the Web?
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christian
Austria
443 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2010 : 02:03:59
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this is what I have
including the cars he did not produce
missing a lot of California info
1 PORSCHE
2 F40 red
3 125 Sport red 1947 ”128
4 250 TR red 1960/61
5 246 red Mosport
6 296 Sport red Silverstone
7 - 12 PORSCHE
13 A 410 SA silver - grey
13 B 410 SA dark green
13 C 410 SA red
13 D 410 SA light blue
14 - 17 PORSCHE
18 A 500 Mondial Berlinetta red
18 B 500 Mondial Berlinetta silver
19 A 500 Mondial Spyder red
19 B 500 Mondial Spyder silver ”234
19 * 500 Mondial Spyder SPYDER yellow special color
20 A 342 America Berlinetta black
20 B 342 America Berlinetta silver
21 500 Mondial Berlinetta blue ”233 TDF
22 500 Mondial Berlinetta silver ”235 TDF
23 - 25 PORSCHE
26 A 400 SA Hardtop withe
26 B 400 SA Hardtop blue
27 A 400 SA Cabrio blue
27 B 400 SA Cabrio red
28 A 166 MM / 53 Berlinetta grey
28 B 166 MM / 53 Berlinetta red
29 A 166 Allemano Berlinetta red
29 B 166 Allemano Berlinetta grey
30 166 Allemano Berlinetta 1” MM red
31 A 206 GT Speziale Berlinetta red
31 B 206 GT Speziale Berlinetta blue
31 C 206 GT Speziale Berlinetta yellow
32 A 166 Allemano Spyder red
32 B 166 Allemano Spyder grey
33 - 34 PORSCHE
35 A 365 GTC 4 Berlinetta blue
35 B 365 GTC 4 Berlinetta red
35 C 365 GTC 4 Berlinetta yellow
36 A AAC 815 Spyder red
36 B AAC 815 Spyder black
37 500 Mondial Spyder Scaglietti yellow
38 250 GT Speziale 1960 blue
39 PORSCHE
40 F40 BRUMMEL
41 A 375 MM Bergamnn silver
41 B 375 MM Bergamnn champagne
42 AAC 815 Spyder MM red
43 - 44 ALFA ROMEO
45 A 365 GTC 4 Cabrio blue
45 B 365 GTC 4 Cabrio red metallic
46 PORSCHE
47 A Mondial 8 3.2 Berlinetta red
47 B Mondial 8 3.2 Berlinetta blue
47 C Mondial 8 3.2 Berlinetta green
47 ? Mondial 8 3.2 Berlinetta silver
48 A Mondial 8 Cabrio red
48 B Mondial 8 Cabrio green
48 C Mondial 8 Cabrio silver
49 A 246 GT red
49 B 246 GT black
49 C 246 GT yellow
50 A 246 GTS red
50 B 246 GTS blue
50 C 246 GTS yellow
51 LAMBORGHINI
52 500 Mondial Spyder red
53 A Mondial 8 Coupe red
53 B Mondial 8 Coupe silver
53 C Mondial 8 Coupe blue
54 A Mondial 8 Cabrio red
54 B Mondial 8 Cabrio grey
54 C Mondial 8 Cabrio blue
54 * Mondial 8 Cabrio yellow special color
55 400 SA Spyder blue
56 410 SA Berlinetta blue - white
57 246 GT SCCA
58 246 GT LE MANS
59 246 GT GIRO ITALIA
60 Mondial 24 H SPA
61 ALFA ROMEO
62 250 California Hardtop
63 250 California
64 250 SWB California
65 250 California
66 - 67 LANCIA
68 - 70 MASERATI
71 - 73 PORSCHE
74 LAMBORGHINI
75 ALFA ROMEO
76 400 SA red metallic
77 A 250 GT Spyder Fantuzzi light blue 2235
77 B 250 GT Spyder Fantuzzi red 2235
78 - 79 PORSCHE
80 - 81 LAMBORGHINI
82 PORSCHE
83 A 365 GTC 4 Spyder Felber white
83 B 365 GTC 4 Spyder Felber gold
84 - 86 PORSCHE
87 - 89 LAMBORGHINI
90 - 94 PORSCHE
95 A 410 SA Dr Wax red
95 B 410 SA Dr Wax black
96 LAMBORGHINI
97 PORSCHE
98 A 206 S Berinetta speziale silver
98 B 206 S Berlinetta speziale red
98 C 206 S Berlinetta yellow
99 206 S 834 yellow
100 250 SWB California
101 250 California 1960 Nrburgring ”78 red
102 - 109 LAMBORGHINI
110 365 GTB 4 NART Spyder Mc Queen
111 A 250 GT Spyder Nembo blue
111 B 250 GT Spyder Nembo red
112 PORSCHE
113 410 SA Berlinetta 481 green - silver
114 410 SA Berlinetta 501 gold - red
115 ALFA ROMEO
116 246 GT Nrburgring green
117 250 GT Spyder Fantuzzi light blue
118 250 SWB California Laguna Seca ”149
119 ?
120 A 250 GT Nembo Coupe red
120 B 250 GT Nembo Coupe black
121 500 Mondial Berlinetta
122 ?
123 LAMBORGHINI
124 ALFA ROMEO
125 ?
126 ?
127 ?
128 ?
129 LAMBORGHINI
130 ?
131 - 133 LAMBORGHINI
134 Mythos Spyder
135 A Mythos Berlinetta red
135 B Mythos Berlinetta blue
136 250 GT Pininfarina 1956
137 A 250 GT Spyder Nembo Hardtop 3771 red
137 B 250 GT Spyder Nembo Hardtop 3771 red - silver
138 A 250 GT Spyder Nembo red
138 B 250 GT Spyder Nembo silver
139 500 TR 622 yellow
140 250 LWB California 1960 Hardtop
141 250 LWB California
142 250 LWB Calfornia Hardtop
143 250 LWB California 1960
144 ?
145 ?
146 ?
147 ?
148 PORSCHE
149 ?
150 ?
151 ?
152 - 155 LAMBORGHINI
156 ?
157 ?
158 A 400 I GTO Berlinetta red
158 B 400 I GTO Berlinetta blue
159 ?
160 - 172 LAMBORGHINI
173 288 GTO
174 - 175 LAMBORGHINI |
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christian
Austria
443 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2010 : 02:05:23
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forgot to say
MR standard series |
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the.x.man
New Zealand
877 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2010 : 03:31:32
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Wow... that is interesting - and potentially very useful. Nice one, Christian :o)
I think we should have a permanent thread in here with this sort of information in it (BBR, RGM, MR, etc, etc).
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moriaan
Netherlands
510 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2010 : 05:01:57
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Il grande piccole, the BBR book contains a list of BBR production uptill 1995.
The "new" revised book was "tobe" a "few" years ago...
Have been waiting and waiting and still waiting ever since I read the anouncement...
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ferrari4evr1
USA
297 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2010 : 07:35:22
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This was a great idea Radical Racing... I'm sure there will be some cars that people see in these lists that are a must have! :)
James
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ferrari4evr1
USA
297 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2010 : 07:37:10
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| Thanks for the list Christian! |
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george E.
Malawi
57 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2010 : 09:34:01
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| Excellent thread |
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Radical Racing
USA
16 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2010 : 11:41:51
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Christian, thanks very much for the MR list. Would it be possible to provide the year of manufacture and chassis# (for the early custom bodied cars) of the 1:1 car modelled by MR/Looksmart? It seems this is often missing from their packaging. Maybe Forum members can help fill in the blanks.
I do not know why so many model manufacturers do not include year of manufacture and chassis number (for custom bodied cars) on the cartons and base label. I would buy more and avoid the dreaded duplicate purchase if they did. I do not collect different colors just significant body shape differences as the goal of my Ferrari collection is to show the evolution (and beauty) of Ferrari automobiles.
I have a zillion books on Ferrari but I still have a lot of trouble discerning whether a newly released model is different than one I already have from another model manufacturer. Is it a Series I or II or III? Is the only difference the number of louvers in the front wings? I want to have a model of every Ferrari production road car, one off custom, styling exercise and stradale but with some of the early cars there is just not enough visible body differences from chassis to chassis for me to justify buying it.
If I have the base model type, the year of manufacture and the chassis# for custom bodied cars, I will have everything I need to make a purchasing decision. I am making a concerted effort to complete my Ferrari data base so I know what I need to tell the complete Ferrari story in the way I want to tell it. Just my obsessive nature I guess.
Todd
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Radical Racing
USA
16 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2010 : 11:44:38
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Mike:
There are a lot of blanks in the list Christian sent. Can you send it to MR and ask them to fill them in?
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zuoscrib
Switzerland
24 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2010 : 13:09:06
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Why not to make a database, where every forum member could upload max. 2 pictures? All Manufacturer, under the standard models and special series as well.
Jono, you could tell if it is possible, or not.
I have a list of Looksmart Lambos (full, as far as I could find them) and a far not complete list for MR Lambos. Pictures would be also possible. |
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Radical Racing
USA
16 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2010 : 17:51:14
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I would love to see two Ferrari data bases created (one for road going cars and one for competition cars).
In my dream the data base would be organized by year from 1943 to present. The road car data base for example would include for each year, every Ferrari production car, custom bodied car with chassis#, stradales?, and one off styling/concept cars. Furthermore it would include the model mfr. and kit/built part number for each model of that car done at the handbuilt *level including such mfrs. as BBR, MR, AMR, Looksmart, Heco, Le Phoenix, Tron, ABC Brianza, MG Model, Technomodel, Hostaro, Ilario, ECO, Dallari, Yow, RGM, Makeup etc. I am sure there are more I have forgotten just now.
*The level of quality to include might cause some debate. I think we could agree Top Model or Jolly or die cast should not be included.
The data from the 1:1 side is definitely is available. Ferrari is the most written about and photographed marque in the world as we all know. If the data on the model manufacturing side is available any where in the world it is here within the combined knowledge of the Miniwerks forum members. Putting it all together would be a massive job. I know because I have been doing it for 15 years with my Le Mans collection. I update it weekly with new releases.
Such a data base would certainly be a great reference for Forum members and I think a very nice legacy for all of us to leave to future collectors. As we all know, we are only the temporary guardians of these miniature works of art......unless some of you plan to be buried with your AMR's and Barnetts.
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the.x.man
New Zealand
877 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2010 : 18:58:13
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I am certainly looking into this... Something should be possible :o)
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christian
Austria
443 Posts |
Posted - 06/04/2010 : 06:18:58
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this is what I have
MR number / year / chassis number
3 1947 01C
4 1960 780
5 1960 784
6 1958 746
13 A 1956 423
13 C 1955 475
18 1954 422/452
19 A 1954 404+
19 race number ”234 1954 424
20 A 1952 246
20 B 1952 240
21 1954 422
22 1954 452
26 1961 2331
27 1959/1960 1611/1885
28 1953 346
29 A 1948 003S
30 1948 003S
31 1967 102+onwards
32 1948 001S
36 1940 021
37 1954 410
38 1960 1737
41 1954 456
42 1940 021
52 1955 446+onwards
56 1953 493
76 1962 3309
77 chassis from 1960 rebody 1965 2235
83 1971 16017
95 A 1956 671
98 1965 840
99 1967 10523
101 chassis from 1959 race 1960 1459
110 1974 14897
113 1956 481
114 1956 501
117 chassis from 1960 rebody 1965 2235
120 1966 1623
121 1954 422/452
134 1989 EAG26
135 ? EFH089
137 chassis 1962 rebody 1966 3771
138 chassis 1962 rebody 1966 3771
139 1956 622
158 ? 37647
a lot of collectors have more knowledge than the model builders hence no more info |
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Radical Racing
USA
16 Posts |
Posted - 06/05/2010 : 23:33:39
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Thinking about it a bit more. I would like to see three data bases rather than two.
1) Ferrari road cars ie. regular prduction, customer bodied cars, stradales, styling/concept cars and one off customer cars.
2) Race cars
3) F1, F2 and Indy cars
I have started looking to see how much work would be required for the manufacturing side of the data for 1). I reviewwed the book Ferrari A Complete Guide to All Models, Acerbi and The Complete Ferrari, Hicks. Both books seem to have some missing information on production and custom bodied cars from the 50's and 60's but might be a good starting point.
The toughesat thing to document, it seems to me, will be the custom bodied cars, the one off styling excercises and one off customer cars. For example where does one find information on (the base model, year of manufacture etc.)the Sultan of Brunei's cars?)
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the.x.man
New Zealand
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Posted - 06/06/2010 : 00:04:40
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I think, Todd, that perhaps it would be less confusing to have the concept/customer/one-off cars in a database of their own, separate from the 'standard' road cars.
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