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moriaan
Netherlands
510 Posts |
 Posted - 09/24/2010 : 09:53:50
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Before you know it, you are at 150 pieces!
My experience, to much is no good either.
Buying is easier than selling.
just my thoughts and experiences
Happy collecting to all!!
Hans |
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360driver
Netherlands
454 Posts |
Posted - 09/24/2010 : 10:06:33
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Originally posted by moriaan
.......Buying is easier than selling........
Absolutely! I tried to sell some modern ferraris which I bought just starting out my Handbuilts collection but since there are too many of them ity is very hard to "get rid of them"
Since my collection is still rahter small (50 pcs) I now only buy the REAL special models..... |
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the.x.man
New Zealand
877 Posts |
Posted - 09/24/2010 : 17:55:37
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Originally posted by Lars T.
... So a leather-based RGM is the ceiling for me.
You say that now, Lars... but one day you will end up with model from Fred Suber, or Steve Barnett, or Built Up Models - and your life will never be the same again :o)
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Lars T.
Germany
21 Posts |
Posted - 09/24/2010 : 21:13:37
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Originally posted by moriaan
Before you know it, you are at 150 pieces!
My experience, to much is no good either.
Buying is easier than selling.
just my thoughts and experiences
Happy collecting to all!!
Hans
Hi Hans,
Unfortunately I was never good at limiting myself when I like something. You should only have a look at my Ferrari book and magazine collection to see what I mean :-) So I guess my model collection will one day grow quite big as well. But like I said, as long as I can display all the models nicely, I wouldnīt mind how many there are. I guess that personally Iīd gladly go way beyond 150 pieces without getting in big doubts that this might be too much (Iīm sure my wife will have a different opinion on that though).
Although I agree that quantity isnīt always a good thing, I also think it doesnīt always has to be a bad thing either. As long as the quantity is also quality, I think it can be combined nicely :-)
Ciao,
Lars T. |
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Lars T.
Germany
21 Posts |
Posted - 09/24/2010 : 21:15:59
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quote:
Originally posted by the.x.man
quote:
Originally posted by Lars T.
... So a leather-based RGM is the ceiling for me.
You say that now, Lars... but one day you will end up with model from Fred Suber, or Steve Barnett, or Built Up Models - and your life will never be the same again :o)
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The only substitute for cubic inches is more cubic inches!
~ Max Balchowsky
Well, never say never of course. But at least for the time being, Iīm very happy to stick with the more affordable (and still expensive) BBRs and the likes :-)
Ciao,
Lars T. |
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moriaan
Netherlands
510 Posts |
Posted - 09/25/2010 : 01:34:39
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I recently stepped up and acquired a factorybuilt Bosica 156-85.
The Barnett or/and Suber will probably be added at some stage...
I am getting very very picky at the moment..
A concept BBR feels like a diecast, I'm pretty spoiled I guess..
Hans
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stewil
USA
139 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2010 : 07:52:03
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Todd,
Very interesting question and such thoughtful responses. Thanks for asking.
My life long fascination with the automobile and model building evolved into a collecting sickness after I retired, all scales - all the time, well, not quite.
The models are for reference and for talks I give on automotive history, so they were stored in trays and drawers with only a few on display. My wife thought the models were too nice not to be seen and shared, so we cleaned out a 26' X 17' basement storage room. I am very fortunate. My personal rule for collecting is to have no duplicates regardless of scale, color variation, hardtop or top up or down, although I do break that rule occasionally.
Below are some pictures that give a sense of what I ended up with. Please forgive me if you have seen these pictures before because I have posted them on another site.
Entry into the auto reference library. Models of all scales are an important 3-D source of reference which backs up the books and videos. The display case in the lower front center contains a story about "The Championship Trail" in the USA, of which the Indy 500 was just one race of many, including dirt track races, which led to the crowning of a champion each season.
The Championship Trail display case contains the story on the bottom shelf.
The right side of the Championship Trail display case contains the older Indy cars starting with the 1st winner. Each car contains information as to it's qualifying speed as well as that years winner's average speed in order to chart the advances in race car design through the decades.
More of the Championship story. The left top shelf contains the later 1/43ed scale Indy cars through 2006.
Cheers and Happy Collecting,
Steve |
Edited by - stewil on 09/28/2010 15:15:32 |
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250GTE
Netherlands
295 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2010 : 15:07:20
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| Great set up Steve! Your wife was certainly right on this one! |
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Lars T.
Germany
21 Posts |
Posted - 09/28/2010 : 20:46:07
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Originally posted by stewil
My wife thought the models were too nice not to be seen and shared
Wow, couldnīt all wives be like yours? Sigh... :-) |
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glengorse
United Kingdom
230 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2010 : 01:58:26
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This is a wonderful thread.... and brilliant to see and read all of the various collectors thoughts.
My 1/43rd collecting started in the early '70's with the purchase of the first Factory Built Porsche Martini from AMR. Bought from Grand Prix Models and quickly followed by a Corvette (Spirit of America), a 365 Berlinetta Boxer, etc... and then followed by a number of early Styling Models specifically Carrera Panamerican..... and then things got out of control and collected everything until one day I decided that enough is enough and sold nearly everything.
I then started collecting kits of AMR/Le Phoenix and looking for a builder...... my only talents in that department were ok but not to the standard I wanted.....
And then went in for Factory Builts of AMR/Le Phoenix and paid some silly prices for rarities.
Where am I at now......
Having found such wonderful builders like Jean-Francois Alberca, Fred Suber, Stephen Barnett, Pierre Fabregues I am now having cars built that I wish to focus on.
These tend to be Ferrari's from the 50's, 60's & 70's and in the main white metal. 250GTO's, Californias and sports racing cars from this period are my main passion. I am trying to put together a Maranello Concessionaires collection as I like my Ferrari's with an English twist and a David Piper collection.
I have to say that I read the exploits of other collectors in this forum with relish and love everything posted but now recognise I cannot collect everything.
I have made some really good friends around the world through this mad hobby of ours and thank Mike for making this forum available to us all.
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Radical Racing
USA
16 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2010 : 12:59:38
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I am really enjoying this thread as well. I stated my Ferrari goal in an earlier thread as that seems to be the major focus of most collectors here at the Miniwerks Forum. However I thought I'd mention a couple of other goals to see if others might share them.
Goals
Goals in order of importance to me:
#1 Complete grids of every car that has started Le Mans from 1929 to date. A daunting, expensive and time consuming task. 2725 pcs with 921 pcs to go. It started as just wanting the winners and grew from there. My friend Ron Peggs says the last 1000 are the hardest. I am facing a lot of work modifing reasonable donors to create some of the really obscure cars. I really enjoy seeing the evolution of the modern racing sports car.
#2 Ferrari road and show cars as explained in an earlier thread. 330 pcs
#3 Can Am I love these cars for their power, their history and because the remind me so much of my youth. I was a fanatic slot racer and most of my slot cars had Can Am bodies. I have 99 pcs at present. Mostly Marsh with a few Esdo and now some Spark. I think John Simon's work is very under appreciated. His L&M Lola T220 is one of my favorite models.
#4 F1 At one time I wanted to show the entire story, 1950 to date but now have much less enthusiasm for this portion of my collection. The new cars are so boringly similar in shape. There are many obscure cars from the 50's and 60's I fear will never be modelled. I am thinking of selling off this portion of my collection. ~ 700 pcs, mostly Tameo and Minichamps.
#5 Lancia I own 1:1 Lancias so I have to collect them, don't I? 68 pcs
#6 Ford GT40 MkI/MkII, MKII, MKIV and Mirage The GT40, my favorite car shape of all time. ~40 pcs
#7 Corvette 1:18 scale My Dad worked for General Motors and every GM empolyees son dreamed of owning a 'Vette. I finally sold my 1963 roadster last year after owning it for over 40 years. 60 pcs
There are several hundred other Alfas, BMWs, Lamborghinis, Porsches, transporters, IMSA cars etc. but I do not consider these as goals. I just liked the shape and picked up a few here and there.
I guess I am what would be called a "completist" collector. I want to show the whole story beginning to end. That is the main reason I have lost interest in my F1 collection.
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stewil
USA
139 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2010 : 12:14:41
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Todd,
Yours is truly a daunting set of goals as that is a lot of models to keep track of as well as to still acquire. WOW
How do you display them?
Appreciated your comment on John Simon's models as I have several and agree.
You Mentioned I guess I am what would be called a "completist" collector. I want to show the whole story beginning to end.
Do you have any of the really early cars that started the story, or any LSR, etc? Would love to see some of your favorites sometime, and please let me know if you have already posted them somewhere.
Thought you might enjoy seeing my favorite Lola as well as a few other Can Am cars in the SCCA display.
and here is one of my favorites - the 2E paradigm shifter.
Can-Am representatives are grouped within the larger SCCA display. As you can see I only purchase a few cars of any genera and attempt to display all of them so that some sort of automotive story is told.
Cheers and Happy Collecting,
Steve |
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the.x.man
New Zealand
877 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2010 : 18:15:31
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I really wish I had the self-discipline to collect objectively like that...
Ideally, I would stick to just three categories:
1930's French Streamliners,
LSR,
Lamborghini.
Unfortunately though, I like too many other cars to ignore them when models of them are released (a large number of Ferraris, various Porsches, etc, as well as vintage and unusual cars).
While I have quite a few fantasy models, I also like having models of subjects with interesting stories behind them - like my MCM Top Queens 1907 Walter-Christie: the first front wheel drive car and raced against a plane by Barney Oldfield. Or, speaking of aircraft, my Nieuport Ni17, flown by Count Baracca in WW1, which had the prancing horse isignia that became the 'Cavalino Rampant' used by Ferrari. This is also partly why I am so interested in LSR vehicles, they all have such colourful histories - even in modern times.
I would also like to collect a large number models of cars raced by New Zealanders. Obviously McLaren would play a large part in this, but also Denny Hulme and Chris Amon.
Concept cars are also a subject that interest me greatly, but one that have found to be almost impossible to keep up with.
Colour can be a strong attraction for me - for example, I bought a BBR Ferrari 599XX in dark metallic red, simply because it is such a stunning colour. The car itself was of less interest to me and if not for the colour, I would not have bothered with it. Now if that is not a definition of insanity, then what is?!
So, this is why my original collecting goals went from three, to six or seven, then spread out all over the place - almost to the point where those orignal three have become buried.
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SteveK
USA
33 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2010 : 19:40:04
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This is a good excercise just to ask myself "what is the goal of my collection?"
1. 1/43 scale very high quality hand built model cars
a. F1 (Not every car! Emphasis on cars of the mid 60s to mid 90s
and superdetailed. Subjects I like, World Champion cars)
b. Le Mans type race cars (emphasis on late 60s through
70s...Porsches and Ferraris, superdetailed)
c. Misc. road and racing cars that I like
d. Examples of the work of exceptional builders, exceptional
examples of the art of 1/43 model auto building
( Bosica, Brauer, Barnett, Fadini, Suber, Dufrene,
Bouissou, Kamimura, Divies, AMR, etc...as my budget
will allow...this gets expensive!)
2. Exceptional kits in the above categories for building by myself
or others.
I try to limit myself to a number of models that I can display properly...I have added cabinet space over the years, so my collection has grown. But I don't want models sitting in their boxes in the closet. (I likely have around 100 handbuilts now...some limit huh ;)
As to earlier comments about self control...it is harder now. Some of you I know can remember the days before the internet! We had publications from Tron in Italy (TSSK), Photorific, Model Car Messenger, eventually 4 Small Wheels, anyone remember Traders' Horn?
Prior to 4 Small Wheels, the photography was not great and of course these only came to our door once a month.
Today we have a "parade" of incredible quality images of even more incredible quality products that can be displayed on our computer screens 24/7. We have easy access to an amazing variety of wares. When we want to pay for something, we can send payment across the globe with the click of our mouse (assuming there is money in the bank, or soon will be!) I can remember sending letters back and forth to Europe, then having to go to the bank for a cashier's check in Lira, and sending it, hoping it got there and all would be OK. The process could take months, and we were not always sure what we would be getting from the black and white photo we saw.
I am not complaining...we all have it great now...but it can make it harder to control our appetites! |
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mymodel
USA
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Posted - 10/05/2010 : 17:32:11
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My goal of my collection should be
1)I like the car
2)The car contributed a lot to auto history
3)The detail of model is important.
Therefore, I spent around a few thousands dollar for a 1/43 Ferrari 250GTO. The kit was manufactured by Makeup and build by Frederic. From now on, I will not buy any BBR or MR models. I think the model by Davis & Giovanni is much better. |
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